What these people did was horrible, what we do as a matter of policy is not accidental, we are the worst terrorists in the world. Our sanctions in Iraq alone resulted in the deaths of 400,000 children-look up unicef figures. Wake up and really read what is going on you're still half asleep. Read about our not accidental firebombing of Dresden, Tokyo, the results of dropping the atomic bombs in Hiroshima, Nagaski. The death squads in south america trained here and created as a direct result of our policies. The butchering of civilians as we speak in Iraq. The loss of american soldiers lives fought in wars based on lies and deceit, for absolutely no reason at all except the greed and quest for power by the oligarchs who really run america. Study history-don't get your information from the media, you won't get the truth or half of what is really going on. Curtis Lemay the general responsible for the firebombing in WWll stated that if we had lost the war he would have been tried for war crimes. This administration whether you know it or not is taking away your rights, burdening you and your children with a sttaggering amount of debt while the affluent fill their pockets with obscene amounts of money. You and I are going to wake up one day and find out we have no rights if we don't cometogether now to fight this subtle oppression. Don't let these people divide us with their propaganda and appeals to patriotism which only results in the deaths of our youth and the impoverishment of our country. I am not some ivory tower intellectual, I am a worker bee and I served my time in the military-all of it. I beg you to educate yourself. Burnie
We are the worst terrorists in the world?? Are you on drugs? Crack maybe?? If so, I want some, because obviously, you're on some good stuff. How many other countries send the Peace Corps out to underdeveloped regions? How many other countries in the world are spending billions of dollars on AIDS?? How many other countries go into the third world (Haiti, Liberia and Kosovo ring a bell?) and stop genocide, mass killings, and unrest and ask FOR NOTHING IN RETURN? Can you think of any other country in the entire history of the world that went in, kicked ass, won the war, and then left?????? I didn't think so.
Our sanctions killed 400,000?? Dude, you're the one that needs to wake the hell up. Ever heard of "Oil for food"??? Ever heard of the money that was siphoned off to the UN and France, selling oil under the table and greasing the palms of the the UN?? Ever heard of Saddam Hussien?? Last time I checked, the oil $$ he was supposed to be buying food for his people went into arming his military and furnishing his castles.
Yep, we firebombed and atom bombed the Japanese, and firebombed Germany. You might want to blame someone like Hitler and Tojo, but that's just me. Why don't we sit around and sing kum-by-ya around the fire and just hope that everyone loves us?
The training of death squads?? You know, why don't you just say that Americans pulled the trigger on innocent villagers?? Would that make you sleep better at night?
The butchering of civilians?? You are seriously out of touch. American forces have gone out of the way, even to the extent of incurring casualties themselves to not harm Iraqi civilians. Our bombs did, have, and will accidentally kill innocents, accidents happen. For you to compare that to what the terrorists do as a matter of daily policy shows me that you're really rather nieve, to say the least.
All our wars are based on deciet?? Like what. Name one. Or is it too easy for you to use the typical liberal diatribe against the American military and America in general. Have we ever done anything right?? Somehow I know your answer.
Oh, pray tell who the oligarchs are that "really run America". I must have slept through that one in my Government classes.
As far as studying history, the last time I checked, one of the two skins on my wall says "MA in History". Maybe I've forgotten since the last time I checked, but I'm still willing to bet that I know much more than you ever will regarding any part of history that you'd be willing to discuss factually.
Curtis Lemay?? Yeah, he loved the smell of napalm in the morning for sure - not only did he orchestrate the firebombing campains, he also was in charge of the Strategic Air Command after the war. So what. The last time I checked the history books, Japan declared war on the United States with a surprise attack at Pearl Harbor. Mess with the bull, get the horns, pal.
The administration is taking away our rights?? Which rights would those be?? Name one right that the Patriot Act has ruined, destroyed, removed, etc. Just one. Name one person who has been prosecuted unjustly through the Patriot Act. Or, are you the kind of person who doesn't want us profiling young middle eastern men so it doesn't hurt their feelings? (which, by the way, we are NOT allowed to do. If you inspect more than 2 middle eastern men per US flight, that's against the law) Or, are you talking about my 2nd ammendment rights that the previous administration was more than happy to walk over?? Or the 1st ammendment rights of the swift boat vets that the Democrat candidate for president is more than happy to walk over? Or, oh, that's different if they're rights that you personally don't care about?
You know what - I couldn't agree more with you on the debt issue - our domestic spending, at an attempt to win over some liberal democrats in the Congress is out of control. But please, don't come whining here that we're spending too much money on the war. We spend FOUR HUNDRED BILLION each year in social spending and have for some time. It's time to cut that, I'll agree with you there.
The affluent are lining their pockets?? Yeah - I got a tax cut, and so did everyone else who actually pays taxes. When you consider that the top 15% of income earners pay over 80% of all the taxes, are you telling me that's not fair and equitable?? (Maybe you should read a little book by Aynn Rand called Atlas Shrugged. Or would that be too much work?) And, hey, look, the economy has now turned around from Clinton's recession. You go back and read your own history, pal, and look at the effect that tax cuts have had in the past 40 years. JFK #1 tried them - economy grew; Reagan tried them - economy grew; W tried them; economy grew. Notice a trend?? By the way, how many times have you been payed from a poor person. You need rich people, Burnie, or there ain't any jobs for the peons like us.
The only people that I see being divisive here, Burnie, are the liberals and the media. Don't come yacking here to me that I'm being divisive just because you don't like the message - the truth.
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What these people did was horrible, what we do as a matter of policy is not accidental, we are the worst terrorists in the world. Our sanctions in Iraq alone resulted in the deaths of 400,000 children-look up unicef figures. Wake up and really read what is going on you're still half asleep. Read about our not accidental firebombing of Dresden, Tokyo, the results of dropping the atomic bombs in Hiroshima, Nagaski. The death squads in south america trained here and created as a direct result of our policies. The butchering of civilians as we speak in Iraq. The loss of american soldiers lives fought in wars based on lies and deceit, for absolutely no reason at all except the greed and quest for power by the oligarchs who really run america. Study history-don't get your information from the media, you won't get the truth or half of what is really going on. Curtis Lemay the general responsible for the firebombing in WWll stated that if we had lost the war he would have been tried for war crimes. This administration whether you know it or not is taking away your rights, burdening you and your children with a sttaggering amount of debt while the affluent fill their pockets with obscene amounts of money. You and I are going to wake up one day and find out we have no rights if we don't cometogether now to fight this subtle oppression. Don't let these people divide us with their propaganda and appeals to patriotism which only results in the deaths of our youth and the impoverishment of our country. I am not some ivory tower intellectual, I am a worker bee and I served my time in the military-all of it. I beg you to educate yourself.
Burnie
Burnie, might I recommend a nice, decaffeinated tea as an alternative to whatever it is you're drinking?
Are you seriously suggesting that the Muslim extremists in Chechnya killed school children because we fire-bombed Tokyo?
I know, I know. That's nonsense. Just like the vast majority of your post. But you started it.
Burnie - read on if you want to learn, pal.
We are the worst terrorists in the world?? Are you on drugs? Crack maybe?? If so, I want some, because obviously, you're on some good stuff. How many other countries send the Peace Corps out to underdeveloped regions? How many other countries in the world are spending billions of dollars on AIDS?? How many other countries go into the third world (Haiti, Liberia and Kosovo ring a bell?) and stop genocide, mass killings, and unrest and ask FOR NOTHING IN RETURN? Can you think of any other country in the entire history of the world that went in, kicked ass, won the war, and then left?????? I didn't think so.
Our sanctions killed 400,000?? Dude, you're the one that needs to wake the hell up. Ever heard of "Oil for food"??? Ever heard of the money that was siphoned off to the UN and France, selling oil under the table and greasing the palms of the the UN?? Ever heard of Saddam Hussien?? Last time I checked, the oil $$ he was supposed to be buying food for his people went into arming his military and furnishing his castles.
Yep, we firebombed and atom bombed the Japanese, and firebombed Germany. You might want to blame someone like Hitler and Tojo, but that's just me. Why don't we sit around and sing kum-by-ya around the fire and just hope that everyone loves us?
The training of death squads?? You know, why don't you just say that Americans pulled the trigger on innocent villagers?? Would that make you sleep better at night?
The butchering of civilians?? You are seriously out of touch. American forces have gone out of the way, even to the extent of incurring casualties themselves to not harm Iraqi civilians. Our bombs did, have, and will accidentally kill innocents, accidents happen. For you to compare that to what the terrorists do as a matter of daily policy shows me that you're really rather nieve, to say the least.
All our wars are based on deciet?? Like what. Name one. Or is it too easy for you to use the typical liberal diatribe against the American military and America in general. Have we ever done anything right?? Somehow I know your answer.
Oh, pray tell who the oligarchs are that "really run America". I must have slept through that one in my Government classes.
As far as studying history, the last time I checked, one of the two skins on my wall says "MA in History". Maybe I've forgotten since the last time I checked, but I'm still willing to bet that I know much more than you ever will regarding any part of history that you'd be willing to discuss factually.
Curtis Lemay?? Yeah, he loved the smell of napalm in the morning for sure - not only did he orchestrate the firebombing campains, he also was in charge of the Strategic Air Command after the war. So what. The last time I checked the history books, Japan declared war on the United States with a surprise attack at Pearl Harbor. Mess with the bull, get the horns, pal.
The administration is taking away our rights?? Which rights would those be?? Name one right that the Patriot Act has ruined, destroyed, removed, etc. Just one. Name one person who has been prosecuted unjustly through the Patriot Act. Or, are you the kind of person who doesn't want us profiling young middle eastern men so it doesn't hurt their feelings? (which, by the way, we are NOT allowed to do. If you inspect more than 2 middle eastern men per US flight, that's against the law) Or, are you talking about my 2nd ammendment rights that the previous administration was more than happy to walk over?? Or the 1st ammendment rights of the swift boat vets that the Democrat candidate for president is more than happy to walk over? Or, oh, that's different if they're rights that you personally don't care about?
You know what - I couldn't agree more with you on the debt issue - our domestic spending, at an attempt to win over some liberal democrats in the Congress is out of control. But please, don't come whining here that we're spending too much money on the war. We spend FOUR HUNDRED BILLION each year in social spending and have for some time. It's time to cut that, I'll agree with you there.
The affluent are lining their pockets?? Yeah - I got a tax cut, and so did everyone else who actually pays taxes. When you consider that the top 15% of income earners pay over 80% of all the taxes, are you telling me that's not fair and equitable?? (Maybe you should read a little book by Aynn Rand called Atlas Shrugged. Or would that be too much work?)
And, hey, look, the economy has now turned around from Clinton's recession. You go back and read your own history, pal, and look at the effect that tax cuts have had in the past 40 years. JFK #1 tried them - economy grew; Reagan tried them - economy grew; W tried them; economy grew. Notice a trend?? By the way, how many times have you been payed from a poor person. You need rich people, Burnie, or there ain't any jobs for the peons like us.
The only people that I see being divisive here, Burnie, are the liberals and the media. Don't come yacking here to me that I'm being divisive just because you don't like the message - the truth.
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